Shocks reference

I’m going to do a reference chart of the height differences between Toda, stock and the third possibility. Measures are bit rough (maybe millimeter here, millimeter there) but the idea is to get ballpark measures for the shocks.

Näyttökuva 2015-5-17 kello 0.50.53

Edit 4.10.2017 sadly this is never getting done 

Differences between AW11 and SW20 suspensions

Front endAW11 (mk1b)SW20 (early)notes
Top mount nuts4x 14mm, 8mm thread (90179-08097)4x 14mm, 8mm thread (90179-08097)same, bolt pattern different
Top nut21mm, 14mm thread (94182-11400)21mm, 14mm thread (94182-11400)same
Bottom bolts 2x 17mm, 12mm thread (90105-12042)2x 19mm, 15mm thread (90105-15001)**) late models have 90105-15005
Bottom nuts2x 17mm (90179-12025)2x 19mm (90179-15001)**) late models have different nuts
Bottom bracket width26mm??mmdifferent between AW11 and SW20. A stack of shims is needed
Upper bolt hole12mm x 14,5mm15mmDiameter difference
Lower bolt hole12mm15mmDiameter difference
Bolt hole c-to-c59mm59mm
Trailing arms48660-1701048660-17030difference? thread and thickness is same.
Tie rod end45046-2913545047-19075length, shape. sw20 points upwards
Rear endAW11 (mk1b)SW20notes
Top mount nuts3x 12mm, 8mm thread (90179-08122)3x 14mm, 10mm thread (90179-10103)bolt pattern same thread is bigger
Top nut21mm, 14mm thread (90179-14015)21mm, 14mm thread (90179-14015)same
Bottom bolts2x 19mm, 15mm thread (90105-15001)2x 19mm, 15mm thread (90105-15001)*same *) late models have 90105-15005
Bottom nuts2x 19mm (90179-15001)2x 19mm (90179-15001)same *) late models have different nuts
Bottom bracket width28mm??almost same
Upper bolt hole15mm x 17mm15mmThe camber adjustment method is different
Lower bolt hole15mm15mmshould be same
Bolt hole c-to-c59mm59mmshould be same
Trailing arms48780-1702048780-17030 difference?
Tie rodvery different

Other stuff:

  • Tie rod ends share the same castle nut. Most likely the tie rod ends are nearly identical and SW20 ones should fit AW11. Length might be an issue and the thread to the tie rod as well
  • Aftermarket SW20 rear trailing arms should fit into AW11
  • Aftermarket SW20 front trailing arms up to -91 should fit to AW11, after that I’m not sure. At least the front bracket where the far end of the trailing arm attaches should be swapped.

 

  • 90105-15001 (aw11 rear) bolt measures:
    • total length 67mm
    • without head length 55mm
    • head height 12mm
    • threaded part 29mm
    • M15(?) thread
    • 19mm tool needed
    • flange diameter ??mm
    • nut height ??mm
  • 90105-12042 (aw11 front) bolt measures
    • total length 64mm
    • without head length 53mm
    • threaded part 33mm
    • M12(?) thread
    • 17mm tool needed
    • flange diamter ??mm
    • nut height ??mm

Things going forward

I’ve pushed things forward and triumphed. Even had the wrong meds which almost pushed me back into deep depression. Felt like hell now the spring has been pretty good for me.

I got all other suspension parts out of the car except struts. All parts have left for sandblasting and powdercoating. They will be sparkly silver 🙂

Got a small 3L ultrasonic cleaner and washed all the bolts and bits. Plenty of discussion between me, Widric and Beldin about getting a new zinc chromate coating for the bolts but overall that could be really expensive. For now the new zinc chromate is out.

Toda is now taken off the car and stock struts are in place, just to keep the hub and brakes and stuff hanging there while powdercoating happens. Ball joints at the end of the control arms were a pain in the ass.

Found out that the front passenger side sway bar bushing was mostly destroyed when the bracket on that side took a big hit. This was way before I got the car.

New bushings are ready. The rear sway bar bushings in the SuperPro kit were for 10mm sway bar and mine had 14mm. I thought this was a difference between JDM and other models, but I havent got any data about this.

Also, I’ve been researching if it would be possible to fit the SW20 Tein Street Flex or Mono Sport coilovers to AW11. Street Flex should be possible but I’ll have to get back to that later.

After weeks of bathing in xylene, I now have 120 clean titanium bolts. Btw, Xylene smells of fun and joy 🙂 I was pretty high after sniffing the stuff while getting rid of the sealant gunk.

HKS Speed Limit Defencer

Yay! Now I can put a HKS sticker on my car!

Widric bought a pile of crap some time ago and within the pile there was this little thingy. It is supposed to remove the 180km/h barrier from the japanese cars. As far as I know, this device should get between the gauge cluster and the ecu, hijacking the speed (SPD) signal.

The actual 180km/h barrier isnt that big problem to me, but what the hell, now I can get all the way to the 210km/h what the car is supposed to go 🙂

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Serial number 33?? 😀

 

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And this is how it looks from inside. Some logic chips and other junk. Really simple device and I wonder how it is even this complicated.

Easy to install too. Just connect black to negative, red to positive and white and yellow are the in and out for the speed signal.